Sufficient & Necessary Questions - - Question 1

People who are red/green color-blind cannot distinguish between green and brown. Gerald cannot distinguish between gr...

hales June 25, 2019

Identifying correct sufficient/necessary terms

Sufficient & Necessary Practice Question 1 When identifying the sufficient and necessary, when/where do we cut them off in the sentence? In this one, for example, I diagramed the necessary as "distinguish between green and brown" rather than just the "distinguish" in the video. Though this had no ultimate baring on my determining the argument, I still want to make sure I understand how to correctly frame these within the sentence - specifically if there is a certain place I should be cutting them off. I have rewatched the full S&N video lesson a few times, so any insights would be helpful.

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Ravi June 25, 2019

@hales,

Great question. The truth is that it doesn't really matter how you
diagram it as long as you understand what the symbols you're using are
referring to so you don't get confused.

I recommend using the shortest possible symbols/words/phrases for you
to capture what's going on. This way, you're being efficient, but
you're also covering everything.

Instead of writing "distinguish," you could even just write "D" to
connote the phrase you're identifying as the necessary premise.

Does that make sense? Let us know if you have any other questions!

jtaylorlaw July 10, 2019

I have a question, when to use contrapositive/positive argument? I see that sometimes he does and sometimes he does not? Why makes it invalid to conclude sufficient condition? The don't just reverse/negate part!

Ravi July 10, 2019

The contrapositive is the logically equivalent statement to the original one.

Example original statement: A - >B
Contrapositive: /B - >/A

These two statements mean the exact same thing. You can "use" the contrapositive when it makes it easier to see why something could be concluded.

Regarding concluding the sufficient condition, that's never something that we're able to do. We can either conclude the necessary condition or the FAILURE of the sufficient condition.

A - >B

A is the sufficient condition and B is the necessary condition. We can't conclude A; rather, A is given to us.

/B - >/A

/B is the sufficient condition and /A is the necessary condition. /A is also the FAILURE of the sufficient condition of the original statement.

For more info on this stuff, I recommend reviewing our video lessons on S&N, as there are tons of drills there that will allow you to better familiarize yourself with the material.

Hope this helps. Let us know if you have any more questions!