Open Q&A (Intermediate) with Nate

Is it what is the structure that you and I have a call and we do on edits or what does that look like it can be it's really flexible to me anything however you want it some people just some people don't like to write at the same time someone else is looking at their paper and so we can just go back and forth and set edits with like a Google document I saw you work on it I'll put in exact questions and comments that you have to address send it back to me I take a look at what you've addressed but it'll always open up a different kind of we got Canada Worms but like a couple other opportunities to change and update I'll update those things and send it back before too.

I prefer I think that's fine And that works really really well I think it's a little better to have like one session at least in the beginning and then maybe one more at the end Just to make sure I like this.

What is the URN? What does that mean?

So yeah, you're covering a lot of ground with this question. So I'm going to try to break down what you're saying in a couple of different ways.

You want to cover up everything you're asking about. It's a really, really good question. I just want to make sure I hit everything one by one here.

Also, hello to Akini who just joined us. This first question we have, obviously is open Q&A, you can ask me anything you want.

This first question we have is just about applications in general. Let me just try to hit every part of what you're saying, how you can you, thanks for joining us.

In general, just like you were saying, your school is always going to have a range of LSAT scores or the 75th percentile of 25th, 50th in the 25th and where do you want to apply for?

I mean, the ideal is you want to aim for this score and above. This is where you want to be when you apply to a school, because what happens is that'll give you your absolute best shot for getting in just because when your application, you said it was Richard, right?

was your name?

Yes, sir. Richard, yes. So when I see Richard's application come across. They think, okay, Richard did better than 75% of people who even got in, who we accepted last year, much less to apply, but we accepted, presumptively, just like automatically, they're going to want to get you in.

This is like the number one biggest piece of your application. So the number two and number three pieces. I don't know how tied these are, but they're kind of not that too far apart are these ones.

don't. LSAT really is the absolute LSAT can make up for anything else going on in your application. So this can be totally ignored.

Actually, in fact, there's a little bit of debate. Some of our LSAT maps believe that the LSAT is the only thing that matters.

And some people think it's about 75% of your application. It's kind of no one really knows the right answer.

And fact, there's a bit of a lump component. So maybe both sides are kind of right. And it may be kind of depends on how different it is and everything else.

you have a really, really good LSAT, it might make up for any GPA. But if you have kind of a medium LSAT for where you're applying for, it might not.

not make up for any GPA, so maybe the stronger it is, the bigger part of your application it is.

So just to answer your question here, you've said a couple things here. You think your GPA, you think your LSAT score is gonna be the stronger part of the application versus your GPA.

And so when it comes to your LSAT score, you're really working with a lot of ifs here.

Exactly, there's two. There's there's um and so these are sort of a philosophical question asking here so we'll go over that.

Right. So here's what you're asking. You're asking like a philosophical question here. As you get your LSAT score and you have kind of two paths you can take, you can go to a higher ranked school and earn less hypothetical scholarship money or go to a lower ranked school and hypothetically earn more scholarship money.

But there's also no guarantee either way here. the bigger question you kind of want to ask yourself is twofold.

Well, it's actually kind of maybe even threefold. There's actually a separate question and you think it is the real question here is why do you want to become a lawyer and especially if you're already working, especially if you already have a career that you started here.

And if it is exclusively about the money, which is okay.

I'm sorry so you do want to practice private law but you don't want to do big law is that what you're saying.

School with less money, or is there any reason at all to put a not as high rank school or more money If you actually don't care about going to big while there's no reason at all to go to a higher rank school necessarily And there's not necessarily any specific reason to ever go to any law school unless there's an exact specific job You want and in fact you can get that exact specific job almost always um via any one of these routes so the real question you actually want to ask here is something slightly different If you're just going to work in the public service Which is what you said you at least want?

Start with there's actually a public service loan forgiveness program and after 10 years of paying your loans monthly They just forgive your loans.

We're actually now playing with too many ifs, you know We don't know what your score is going to be yet and we don't understand that's why it's like philosophy more than anything else Here he's actually the bigger thing I want to point out to you instead though This is you're actually like I said you're actually asking a slightly different question The bigger thing I actually want to point out to you is it sounds like you're going to law school to work in

in a particular field, if that's true, an actual bigger part of your application is not your actual LSAT and it's not gonna even be your school, it's actually gonna be your work experience.

And so what you actually wanna do is now, if you're already sure you wanna work at the DOJ, if you're actually already sure you wanna work in a court, do it now, go and volunteer right now or get an internship now or take a job right now as a paralegal, whether it's interning or for money, what's gonna happen is literally two things will happen from that, one, your application will get better.

And now in fact, your whole application will be so much more clear, they're gonna ask you as a person fundamentally, why do you as a person that's already started your career wanna go to law school at all, what's the reason?

And it's a much easier argument to make if you say, actually I'm already working at a court and I just wanna do this now as a lawyer, wanna continue.

continue on in this path, my career path is limited if I don't have a JD. That's a stronger application than saying, I want to be a litigator, don't have any experience doing it.

And so taking a bigger step back, one's a much stronger application, you can start doing it now. If that's definitively the work you want to do, and in fact, working in there, can decide, well, is this something I want to do for 10 years?

Or is this not? And in fact, maybe I do, or don't even want to go to law school at all.

actually inform your law school decision. So the biggest piece of information I give you right now is, especially if you're working in the public service, and especially if you already know the type of work you want to do, go ahead and do it now.

And it'll make your whole law of publication better, and then it'll get you into better school. And then it'll get you better scholarships.

And it'll make it more obvious whether you want to go to this path.

Yeah, these are great answers. Thanks for jumping in. Thanks, Those are great answers, as well. It's just going to depend on where you want to go to school.

Ideally, you always want to apply above the 75th But if you're dead set, I'm going to Georgetown and you just apply anyway.

And then your second question you're asking is, do I still want to go to Georgetown if I have to take all the loans?

And so what you're going to want to have to do, I mean, in this situation, like I said, we're working with somebody if the best, we just have to wait a little bit until you get your LSAT score.

But then after that, you might just want to apply to a range of schools and see where you go and then make the take the cam down the road for future Richard and make the hard decision.

So it's going to be timely and expensive application process adds up. absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I appreciate it.

Yeah, studying more and getting higher LSAT scores always useful and getting the work experience in. And that field is also already extremely useful as well, especially because if you like the work and they like you, they can just sometimes even make you a job offer and say as soon as you graduate law school, will hire you back as a full-time attorney.

And so you already have your job lined up. You don't have to worry about that aspect. And it won't even matter in that sense where you go to law school at all.

And so you can just go to any law school that'll give you the most money and you just go take the job, your dream job comes right back.

Yeah, we usually just do our sessions at a time. I'm not sure if you work with a tutor at Matt's but it's the same process where you just book a session.

think you should reach out if you're talking to Jessica about the comprehensive package. I am. Okay, you want to reach out to her because she can help you decide.

I think there's a I actually don't even really know but sometimes students already have a tutoring hour they can use for that or they buy it with the package.

And I'm not 100% sure so that's a question you have to direct to Jessica that one.

Yeah, absolutely. just as a quick note, usually like a one hour session to get everything kicked off and then in exchange of notes and another one.

that worked out really, really well, another one hour session and worked out really well. We get everything.

you. We'll talk to you Richard.

Thank you. Yeah, so any other questions? That's question number one, nice long comprehensive question.

Absolutely.

And then my lowest was when I first started.

I'm like, oh my gosh, this is a possibility I could go to NYU.

And I just want to add to that, what you're saying, I just want to add, I'm not sure Richard is still on if he's dropped off, but it, both of you are in the really immutable position, that if you have more time to study, your score always keeps going up.

I'm still learning. I feel like I'm still getting better at the LSAT now. I'm tutoring the bar as well, so feel I'm still getting better at the bar.

And if you just give it more and more and more time, your score keeps going up slowly but surely over time, and your understanding gets better.

if you need, already to say yes, it's a good idea to keep studying, if you have the energy and the time and the motivation, it's a very like deeply personal decision, same with Richard, but if you have the time to keep studying, that's what you want to do.

The rest of them.

stupid like that. It's not stupid. It's just that's how you're learning. Yeah, really good.

What do you want? If you're asking if you're asking about staying motivated and and keep pushing even though it's hard and you get tired it's just you got to rest.

The only way to keep it going is you got to get rest so if you divide your blind review up into two days that's definitely a good as long as you have the time energy to do it because I got to take breaks too.

got to really even like days and weeks long breaks are good too. Like it's just so necessary. The human brain is not like the computer or like the car.

Every day you just turn on and go, go, as much as you want. You've got to rest. You really have to rest.

Yeah. If one day you can bump it up to three, that'd be good too. But if you can only do two and in fact, if you can only do one, that's okay, too.

It's not easy to do these tests. you can do two, it'd be great, but it's just not easy.

Mm hmm.

No, no, I was good to say hello to Blue, Henry, to destroy us. We can add any question you have, just unmute yourself and ask or type it in the chat.

We're taking on the question right now from a Katie. So, Katie, I think you can definitely, I gave Richard multiple questions that are outside.

So if I gave everyone else multiple questions. I'm just going to type a note here. must be true. So this is going to be number two with PTs and number three is must be true.

So the technical thing here is a must be true question.

Right. So I definitely agree. sometimes you can answer it without drawing everything out and save yourself time. if you can't, you know, it's going to take a while.

You have to either skip it and come back or decide what you want to do. But I always try to answer them without diagonally, everything out, just because that's so much work.

And I don't want to do all that work. But you've totally nailed this. A must be true question has to be 100% true.

A most strongly supported is the exact same approach. But it doesn't definitively have to be 100% true. The best idea to think of is like 99% true.

It's not going to change your approach at all. So imagine if I said all homes have windows. Nate's list in a home.

It's definitely 100% true. Nate's home has a window. So, that's 100% true. What would most strongly support it? It looks like how that might be a little bit different and how could we still find an answer that would match?

This must be true. Nate, so it must have a window if all homes do have windows. What if I said instead though, all homes are legally required to have windows?

And Nate moved into a new home or even Nate's built a new home. You can't guarantee here that Nate's home has windows, but it's legally required to have them.

And especially if it's new or if Nate's building it, Nate either has to know the regulations or someone would know the regulations or this could be a new legal example.

legal home, it's absolutely possible. But I would say it's pretty much above 99% certain if Nate's going to buy a new home, the only way you can get your permits to buy a home or rent or build a home or whatever it is, is it's going to probably have to be illegally like permissible structure.

And so is it 100% true that Nate's home has a window? No. But I'm pretty sure we're going to be at the 99% level or better and the approach is the same.

So this home probably almost certainly has a window, although we can't be sure. None of the other answer choices are going to be better than that.

And if the answer choice for either one of these was Nate's home has a window, that's going to be the right answer.

That's going to be right answer. But it's the exact same approach here. Nothing's going to change. Or if it gets a logical force, so instead of Nate's home has a window, you can say Nate's home, likely, has a window.

And again here, likely is not the It's not any more correct than definitely has, but if it's legally required to, if we're not 100% sure, even if it's just under 100% sure, that's going to be okay, that's going to be the right answer.

the only difference here is going to be it might just be a little bit weaker, the right answer choice than you'd want it to be, or the stimulus statements don't add up to being 100% true supported statement, but you can kind of like round up a little bit.

I would say, I would say his home has a window, even though I can't be sure. Thank you so much.

Yeah, absolutely. Let me pause me for one second here. Blue Hendrix or regular, do you have any questions, if not, well it's so off also, but anyone can take the floor here for the next question.

just wanted to give you all a chance first, sure, but it might be hard to answer to the Blue Hendrix.

Go ahead. So reading comp, what is the good way to take notes throughout the passage? So reading comp notes, I'm not spending a lot of time on RC sections, have you practiced them both timed and untimed?

Only timed. Have you practiced it all timed? Not yet. Okay, you should start with untimed. Give that a try.

do everything untimed and do it the longer way, the slower way. And this is the truth for all logical reasons and all reading comp, take more notes.

Take as many notes as you possibly can, read it multiple times. Note down everything you think is possibly even remotely useful.

And then over time, what you're going to do is, you're going to just naturally accidentally as you switch over to time and as you build up a strategy, and I would even practice this for like months.

Or at the very least weeks, ideally months. And over time, it's going to get easier to notice the stuff without taking notes.

And the amount of notes you'll take will go down and your speed will naturally increase. Because you're just going to understand notice things faster.

So always in life do things at first, the slower way, the harder way, the more thorough way. And then over time, you'll find you don't need to do it anymore and your brain will build up its natural shortcuts and your brain will decide how many notes to take.

to start there. Secondly, so do more. Take more notes now. Take more notes. a ton of practice tests with more and more and more notes.

then over time you'll find that you don't need as many notes as you switch to timed practice. And then secondly, if you're curious about exactly what to take notes on, I love to just take notes on the minor meta structures.

And just note down every time they use an example, a comparison, a list, causality. I think if you just notice those things, you'll almost certainly be ready for the questions, or at least a lot of the questions.

My testimony to this situation.

used to take a a lot of notes.

Don't do it.

I just stopped.

Clean with a highlighter for four minutes or under. Yeah, in fact, actually, blue, I'd like you to try a kidney strategy here.

She said two really useful things. First, I would encourage you to take the long version first, at least try this for a while because may not see possibly can and then bring in a kidney strategy, which was twofold, which is one, one day, just practice, don't take notes, not taking notes at all.

Just don't do it at all. And then two, if you're not getting it done in four minutes, force yourself to read a passage in four minutes, read it again and again and again until you can get to four minutes.

And then from there, your brain will just know what that timer is and any brain will just do it naturally.

I'm going to add in one more thing, he asked another question here. What's an example? It's just what they say, for example, they just literally use an example.

If they start talking about all people, blah, blah, next sentence, they say Nate does blah, blah, blah, Nate could be an example of those all.

all people. So either say, for example, literally, or they silently say, for example, and bring an example without saying, for example.

Like, if I'm saying, it'd be a great idea to go out to eat. There's a new Todd place nearby.

We could try it. And so idea of we could try it, that's an example of something we could go out to eat.

I think I might have answered everyone's questions, or just skip anyone's. Can you address everything you said? I feel like I'm lost my train.

thought that for one second. Oh, I didn't like taking notes. I was never a big note taken. fact, I always thought I did better.

I thought that's a lesson. So I definitely want to second. Oh, that's what want to say. I want to second one.

Aquini says, but then Aquini, if you had a great tutor, say the name, advertise little bit for him. weren't working with me.

please have one who you're working with.

She just said, right.

She's going to Harvard right now.

Yeah, right. Yeah, let go and apply that to for LSAT Max.

had a session with Ross who was amazing.

Golov.

then you, Mr. Nate, you're very meticulous. Thanks. Yeah, I appreciate that. Everyone has a different style, so I just want to encourage everyone to try different tutors.

It's really really useful, really useful. Thank you for that, Keenan. So I want to bring in hello to Mitchell as well as just doing this is open Q&A Ask anything you want.

just finishing up a couple of questions here and any question you have you can put it in the chat or unmute yourself.

I just have a couple questions I didn't address. What did editing say on the list for meta minor meta structures examples comparisons list in causality?

As always, I don't have a great handwriting Examples compare sounds lists and calls out. Let's see Cause and effect I'm ready to say yes, I took a passage test like a general of non outside user and got a four correct and three wrong that you know, instruction will fail.

I read is this passage of a meta structure in the key. you have to notice This is a regular thing here.

You have to notice both the contents of the passage like a real Like as Regu is saying, if the notice, the information, the passage, a regular person would read a regular article, but the LSAT is also going to test you on the presentation or the structure or the organization of the passage too.

if the notice, both of these things to do well on reading content. Yeah. Great. Yeah. Great questions all around here.

Yeah. And once again, a floor is open for anyone.

Yeah, great. Let's take a look. And we're going to be in kind of a tricky position with doing that.

don't have ask. Let's see if we can do it. It's just, we might not be able to cover so much ground.

you know the Q and A's are usually like every other week or so. And then, but then the live classes are every day.

me take a look here. It's usually once to twice a week, even actually the update is going to be twice a week.

this next couple of months. Yeah, they're really not sure to come to another one. Yeah, let's take it. Let's let's start over here.

Can you give us a brief?

Yeah, and so I want you to point out the exact logical force words that are used here. And it's a really interesting point I always want to make for all reading and psychological reasoning.

I'm seeing, I'm following along where you're saying, and so let's take a look at this.

Top line there says, but raising issues. Donner does not disguise the fact that Boardwell. So our author is not here going to say, is, you know, ridiculous, or is making huge mistakes, or whatever the exact words are using are the exact strength and the power of the words are.

Boardwell stretches the definition of the term realism. So it's not that our author totally disagrees. It's not that our author thinks that Boardwell's definition is terrible, it's just that Boardwell is not stretching it.

We always want to focus on that exact power and exact strength of these words here. And then there's still a problem, as Berkeley identifies, or his films here.

then, Boardwell then too quickly dismisses the fact that watching a film, so it's not that it's, Boardwell is ignoring it, but has looked at it and has dismissed it, but too quickly for our author's liking.

So our author doesn't totally disagree with the things Boardwell does. saying they said, Boardwell didn't pay attention as much as I would like him to the things that I want Boardwell to pay attention to and then that's that's really the example right here by the next line as well because knowledge of genres acquired it would be worthwhile so it's not that this is the most important thing in the world it's not that you have to do this it's not necessary it's just it would be worthwhile for scholars like Boardwell to first consider and not to only consider but just to first consider how viewers process cinematic images and eventually come to accept them as conventions before generalizing about the realism of certain films styles and so you might have already noticed that but I should really want to point that out and so let's take a look at some answers choices which ones were you taking a look at that you thought what you are yeah so I felt and I can kind of see how it's wrong but I thought

And so I like, that kind of feels like it could be like, just want to add one thing here.

You're 100% right here. The hardest question, the only thing right or wrong, the only thing I'll distinguish to kind of interest that you're kind of divided between is the exact logical force word, the exact power of the words and not just what it's about, but how strongly, how strong this is.

so B is saying the use of technical elements in films, the classical area era was usually very simplistic. Did authors say very or did they just say kind of simplistic?

And on the outside to kind of defeat these hardest questions is that two answers for that seem really, really good.

One's going to be wrong only because of the exact logical force here. If they're only kind of maybe implying simplistic, but the answer choice that's very simplistic.

It's going to be too strong and it's not. And so here it looks like from the top, you point out this exact line.

The technical elements of filmmaking are employed to tell a realistic story.

Exactly. So this is probably going off the wrong way. in the wrong direction, not just in the content, but in the logical force.

if they had just said it was usually straightforward or usually simplistic, that might have been a lot harder to eliminate into choice, but very simplistic.

has to be supported by word that's very simplistic. Yeah, really good question. We bring in this last question.

Yeah, and where do we talk about?

Let's take a look there. Yeah. Where do we talk about accepting images?

I think you're definitely came upon a really tricky one. This one may be as best answered by process of elimination, but let's really look at that last two sentences here.

And so actually, even though a very less sense because because knowledge of genre is a quiet, that's already very straightforward statement.

The only way we know about genre is we have to acquire it. And in fact, D might even be weaker than it has to be.

Audiences learn to accept certain cinematic images as conventions primarily through repeated exposure. In fact, it might be only through repeated exposure, not just primarily.

So this one is even weaker and the choice that we might need because knowledge of genre is acquired. would be worthwhile for scholars to board office, consider how you

through this process in my images. So how we process them and eventually come to accept them as conventions. And so I do believe if we combine that with that first half of that sentence, that you just acquire it by exposure.

And in fact, D might have been weaker than it has to be. could have been, it's only acquired through repeated exposure.

Although, I hope that the answer to your question, because I haven't had a chance to give it as a really thorough reading.

in this time. But the biggest thing, it's because if you're already going to tell me, it became an exercise in my immediate instinct is, it's probably just a logical force question.

in fact, use that same technique on yourself. fact, extend that into logical reasoning as well. And if you can, if you always watch, in fact, I would even encourage everyone to do a whole second reading of every logical reasoning question, especially as it's practicing on time.

Read it once, do the question. You know understand the argument everything and then read it a second time and ask yourself Okay, me read for every logical force word and even read all the answer to us the second time Just to know it's for exact logical force words and the more and more you build up that skill that that's the final step That's like the kind of almost the final boss.

Maybe not quite the final boss We all said it's always noticing all the exact logical force words Okay, yeah, thank you Thank you sneaking those in right then that's perfect timing Um, yeah, so thank you everyone for your time.

I'm gonna go ahead and I think we're out of time So and the session thanks again everyone Blue and Mitchell and Akini rich and you joined us I grew anyone else.

Thanks again everyone. Have a good day