Which one of the following statements most accurately characterizes a difference between the two passages?

Jessw on September 3, 2020

Arguments or Facts page question?

Hi - I noticed my BIGGEST problem in LR is identifying the conclusion, I can never tell if it is a concluding statement, or some facts. For example, on the 'Arguments or Facts' page....Question #3. I put that it was an argument and that the conclusion was "The US ranks far behind countries such as Sweden and Canada when it comes to workplace safety". Here is the whole passage. "The US ranks far behind countries such as Sweden and Canada when it comes to workplace safety. In all 3 countries, joint labor - management committees that oversee workplace safety conditions have been very successful in reducing occupational injuries. In the US, such committees are found only in the few companies that have voluntarily established them. However, in Sweden and several Canadian provinces, joint safety committees are required by law and exist in all medium-sized and large workplaces." So, in taking notes on the introduction into LR, Mehran said to look for 'what is the point they are trying to prove?' and if it is no point then it is facts. But one could argue, the 'point' is that the US is behind, aka the choice I put as the conclusion. Other people have said, 'the conclusion is the one that is provable, and what is proving it are premises'. Well, again, the choice I picked as the conclusion is provable. They give examples as to why the US is behind. It seems like the instructions (just in general, not LSAT MAX specifically, I have had this problem everywhere) on finding the conclusion, aren't truly applicable. One could tell me, well they aren't trying to prove anything, so it is a statement, aka facts!! But, okay with that same logic, I go to answer other questions and see a question with a similar set up to this, and then that time ago, the perceived 'statement' is now a conclusion?? I am so immensely confused. I will see question choices like these below Every business strives to increase its productivity, for this increases profits for the owners and the likelihood that the business will survive. (conclusion begin) But not all efforts to increase productivity are beneficial to the business as a whole (conclusion end). Often, attempts to increase productivity decrease the number of employees, which clearly harms the dismissed employees as well as the sense of security of the retained employees. This question to me, is the same as what is above. It is literally a statement. It is broad just like the 'fact above'. But this one is a conclusion???? I am so confused please help me

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Jessw on September 15, 2020

hi just following up

STACEYCOX43 on September 24, 2020

It's not out job to argue the details of the "world" given. The business example you gave us generalizing "every business" and they're also leaving out other factors affecting productivity , etc.

In the forest example it is straighter facts (no implied attachment or argument) that theUS is behind Sweeden et al. An argument would build on that and use that fact as a premise for the argument

Carrie-Walker on April 8, 2021

This is a fact question type and therefore no conclusion will be laid out; it is just a statement of facts. You use the information presented to answer the question stem; we are not being asked to find the flaw or refute the argument. Hope this helps.